EXPECT DIFFERENT: All Smart No Hype limited series podcast

United Kingdom | 21 January 2026
Reading Time : 4 min

Join Dale Sinclair and Johnathan Munkley in this podcast miniseries recorded at Digital Construction Week (DCW) 2025 at London Excel from June 4-5 at WSP’s booth.

Listen to real conversations and hear new insights from a wide range of construction and digital experts, as they discuss their areas of focus, our groundbreaking kit-of-parts approach and their experiences at DCW.

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I'm Dale Sinclair, host of WSP's All Smart No Hype podcast, where my cohost, Johnathan Munkley, and I dive into how digital is changing the built environment with some of the biggest names and trusted voices in the industry.

Dale Sinclair Global Digital Offering Lead, Modern Methods of Construction

Dale Sinclair Global Digital Offering Lead, Modern Methods of Construction

Learn everything about modern methods of construction

EXPECT DIFFERENT: Designing for manufacturing and assembly

Dale Sinclair speaks with Dan Pollard, Production Director at Thurston Group, about shifting from designing for construction to designing for manufacturing and assembly.

EXPECT DIFFERENT: Shifting from construction to manufacturing

Dale Sinclair talks with Bruce Bell, Founder & CEO of Facit, and Tim Hall, Consultant from Total Flow, about the shift towards a manufacturing-based approach to construction.

EXPECT DIFFERENT: Normalising MMC

Johnathan Munkley talks with Paul Drayton, Head of Digital Europe at Laing O'Rourke, and Claire Callan, Technical Director - Smart Places at WSP UK & Ireland, about making modern methods of construction and offsite the norm in the Architecture, Engineering and Construction (AEC) industry.

EXPECT DIFFERENT: Construction materials for longevity and sustainability

Dale Sinclair in discussion with Peter Fisher, Director at Bennetts Associates, about construction materials and designing buildings with a focus on longevity and sustainability.

EXPECT DIFFERENT: Mobilising Kit of Parts

Johnathan Munkley speaks with David Miller, Director & Principal Architect at DMA, and Mark Thorley, Co Founder & CEO of KOPE, about what it will take to mobilise kit-of-parts at scale.

EXPECT DIFFERENT: Robotics

Dale Sinclair talks to Az Jasat, Senior Industry Manager, Industrialised Construction at Autodesk, and Sebastian Andraos, Co-founder and CEO of HAL Robotics, on making robotics usage more widespread in the AEC industry.

EXPECT DIFFERENT: Better use of digital tools

Dale Sinclair in discussion with Eva Magnisali, founder and CEO of DataForm Lab, about making better use of digital tools from the manufacturers' perspective.

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Meet our hosts

Dale Sinclair

Director – Head of Digital Innovation

United Kingdom

Johnathan Munkley

Digital Services Lead, Property & Buildings

United Kingdom

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EXPECT DIFFERENT: All Smart No Hype limited series podcast

EXPECT DIFFERENT: All Smart No Hype limited series podcast

Learn everything about modern methods of construction